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Re: A large order of entitlement with some victim-blaming on the side, please

zeke91 — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:21:49 -0000

I think it's pretty ludicrous to say we have the "right" to kill or rape women in the Western world. That's just flat-out incorrect, and frankly I find much of this article insulting. I don't mean to be rude, but your discussion policy stated that disagreement was acceptable. And since you used pretty inflammatory language in your original article, it's hard for me to disagree without responding in kind, because I strongly disagree with you on almost everything, with a few exceptions. I don't want to type out a really long post if it's going to be deleted, so could you tell me if I'm welcome here before I engage in a conversation? Thanks.

Re: Smile if you’re a privileged white dude

Auntie Thetical — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:21:11 -0000

Yeah, the guy shows some pretty brilliant sensitivity, doesn't he.

Re: Vlogging Feminism: The Garneau Rapist and Victim Blaming

Vlug Fietsen — Wed, 20 May 2009 00:58:20 -0000

(Deeply Concerned Edmontonian in the
Garnaeu Area)
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Let us all reflect on something more concrete as an
example of EXACTLY what is being discussed here.
Perhaps we can all learn something from someone who
has an ability to put these complaints into words that
are clear, thus making it an understandable part of
this current topic we are discussing .... Hey just
thought of something.... perhaps the RcMP and our
Edmonton City Police ought to buy this book.
(I have tendency to ramble on as well, though mostly
due to being an angry victim of rape and torture) it
took years of counselling before I had my eyes open.)
Quote;
Defensive Attribution ... (quote form; “Psychology
Themes And Variations” by Wayne Weiten 2001.
In attempting to explain the calamities and setbacks
that befall other people, an observer's tendency to
make internal attributions may become even stronger
than normal. Let's say that a friend gets mugged and
severely beaten. You may attribute the You mugging to
your friend's carelessness or stupidity ("He should
have known better than to be in that neighbourhood at
that time") rather than to bad luck. Why? Because if
you attribute your friend's misfor¬tune to bad luck,
you have to face the ugly reality that it could just
as easily happen to you. To avoid .disturbing
thoughts such as these, people often attribute mishaps
to victims' negligence (Salminen,
1992; Thornton, 1984, 1992).
Defensive attribution is a tendency to blame victims
for their misfortune, so that one feels less likely to
be victimized in a similar way. Hindsight bias
probably contributes to this tendency, but blam¬ing
victims also helps people maintain their belief that
they live in a just world, where they're unlikely to
experience similar troubles 1999). The bias toward
making defensive attributions can have unfortunate
consequences. Blaming victims for their setbacks
causes them to be seen in a negative light, and
undesirable traits are unfairly attributed to them.
Thus, it is assumed that burglary victims must be
careless, that people who get fired must be
incompetent, that poor people must be lazy, that RAPE
VICTIMS MUST BE SEDUCTIVE ("She probably asked for
it”), and so on... As you can see, DEFENSIVE
ATTRIBUTION can lead to unwarranted derogation of
victims of misfortune.
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Thank You for reading. Many Judges, Lawyers, and
particularly those who take initial statements in our
police system ought to be constantly reminded of this.
So please feel free to use this quote to send to
whomever you like. May I suggest the current Chief and
Head of Command here in Edmonton.... they honestly are
in NEED of a wake up call !!!

Vlug Fietsen (Edmontonian)

Re: Vlogging Feminism: The Garneau Rapist and Victim Blaming

Vlug Fietsen — Wed, 20 May 2009 00:55:10 -0000

The Garneau Rapist and Victim Blaming

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PROTECT yourself and your neighbours (your community)
worth while advice... we have these issues here in Alberta.

-- "Richard W. Stevensâ€ ... The horses mouth

Source: http://dial911.itgo.com

Re: Vlogging Feminism: The Garneau Rapist and Victim Blaming

Vlug Fietsen — Wed, 20 May 2009 00:47:47 -0000

Have they caught the prick who committed these crimes yet???

we haven't heard anything, though we don't always listen and watch the news.

Re: A large order of entitlement with some victim-blaming on the side, please

Holly — Mon, 18 May 2009 02:24:46 -0000

Great article and you're completely spot on with every argument you brought up. There are still so many people who believe that if a woman wears pretty much anything less than a ski suit then she was asking for it and in the numerous points you brought up, you're completely right in saying that it erases the perpetrator for the situation. We definitely need to start holding men accountable for what they do instead of focusing on a woman who was "asking for it."

Re: Gender and Race at the U of A IDEAfest

jclont — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 15:06:22 -0000

Thanks ivh and Derek for the definition of POC. I could have gotten an online dictionary to look it up, but I was feeling lazy.

Re: Gender and Race at the U of A IDEAfest

Derek — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 14:09:01 -0000

POC = Person/People of Colour

Re: Gender and Race at the U of A IDEAfest

ivh — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 14:08:42 -0000

Johan - Person of Colour

Re: Gender and Race at the U of A IDEAfest

jclont — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:58:48 -0000

What is a POC?

Re: Spoken Word, Race, and Intimate Violence

A Crip — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 15:07:10 -0000

This iz da SHIZnit man! But why U never post anymore?!?! Peace bro.

- A Crip

Re: Spoken Word, Race, and Intimate Violence

Derek — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:32:56 -0000

Samara,

I can definitely relate to your answer, because I believe that's how a lot of people think. The solution to the problem that you and many others hold isn't for WoC to tell you what they need. Rather, it's important for white feminists, IMO, to talk to WoC and ask what they can do to help, and, perhaps most importantly, listen. There are tonnes of marginalised people out in the world who aren't being listened to. I think if you search around a bit, (blogs are a great resource for this) you're bound to find loads of helpful information without having to ask anyone at all.

Re: Spoken Word, Race, and Intimate Violence

Till — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 16:38:50 -0000

You know, Samara, you just described *exactly* how many men feel about feminism.

Re: Spoken Word, Race, and Intimate Violence

Samara — Sat, 07 Feb 2009 02:10:13 -0000

I definitely agree with what you are saying... but I guess the problem for me as a white feminist is that it is hard to deal with the issue of race when its not something that I personally experience, when the majority of the people I know are white, when I'm concerned but don't want to sort of... prescribe a solution if I don't know if it's actually what people of colour would want or agree with. I don't want to be "telling" people of colour what they need when I'm really not in a position to know. Of course I need to try my best to learn about these problems, but it seems like such a vicious cycle sometimes. To know what issues should be addressed I feel like I need women of colour to show me... but to attract women of colour to the over-white feminist movement, those issues need to already be being addressed.

I don't know, I'm not disagreeing. I'm just saying that it's difficult (not an excuse! just a comment) and that... even if we don't deserve help, us white feminists would really benefit from being told and instructed and enlightened about what the issues surrounding race and gender really are.

Re: Spoken Word, Race, and Intimate Violence

Caitlin — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 10:15:03 -0000

Derek, I totally agree with what you're saying. Race is a big issue in the feminist networks purely because a lot of people don't regard it as such!

We're currently trying to set up a gender equality society at my uni and are trying to work out how to advertise it/get people interested. Obviously we don't only want to appeal to white middle class feminists, so any advice would be greatly appreciated :)

Re: I’m Back… Again

miteypen — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 11:01:39 -0000

I'm glad to see that you haven't given up on Doing Feminism since that's the blog I've linked to on my blog. I really enjoy it--which basically means that it's your writing I enjoy. You have a very "real" voice and you communicate clearly. Good luck on your creative non-fiction and your writing group! Both can be very tricky!

Re: I’m Back… Again

Caitlin — Sat, 24 Jan 2009 06:57:08 -0000

Eep scrap the 'sure' and that sentence will make sense! *sigh*

Re: I’m Back… Again

Caitlin — Sat, 24 Jan 2009 06:55:33 -0000

You're back! *Celebrates*

Good luck on Thursday, if sure your spoken word is as eloquent and interesting as your blogs (which I'm sure it will be) you'll be fine :)

Re: Happy Holidays (High School Edition)

Caitlin — Thu, 25 Dec 2008 12:18:48 -0000

Merry Xmas :) have a good un!

xxx

Re: Happy Holidays (High School Edition)

dashaway — Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:54:30 -0000

Sufjannnnnn YES! Enjoy the break.

Re: A Note on Silence

Dan — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:44:35 -0000

I used to believe in challenging everybody all of the time. Then I realized I didn't like the person I was becoming.

As I've gotten older I've found there's something to be said to picking my battles.

Arguing on the internet has never done anything for me but get me all riled up over the comments of a few people who's mind I will never change.

Re: Into the Void

Nicole P — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:18:50 -0000

I wish I'd seen this post earlier! I found one really good vegetarian restaurant in NY. How did you like it? Hope all is well and you're finding time for yourself over the holiday :)

Re: Into the Void

Dashaway — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:16:42 -0000

This is so exciting, Derek! Hope it goes well!

Re: Into the Void

Amber Rhea — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:57:43 -0000

Yaffa Cafe in the East Village is yummy!

Re: White Ribbon Days highlight abuses

Derek — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:08:35 -0000

Haha, no worries, monika. Your thoughts and words are always appreciated here.